Elizabeth Ann Reed 1818 - 1893

Elizabeth Ann REED^1A was born on 16 September 1818^B, in Butler County, Ohio or possibly Pennsylvania. Her parents names are unknown.^{2, B, C}. Elizabeth became known as Eliza.

Blaney PALMER Sr.³ married Eliza A. Reed on 18 November 1847 in Butler County, Ohio.

By 9 October 1850 Eliza and Blaney Palmer Sr. are living in Otter Creek Township, Ripley County, Indiana. Eliza and Blaney Palmer Sr. can be found in subsequent United States census reports for 1860, 1870, and 1880 enumerating Center Township, Ripley County for those years. According to those same census reports Eliza Alma (Reed) Palmer's occupation was that of housewife. The 1870 and 1880 United States Census share Eliza could read, but could not write.

Hendrick's Crossing.
(Two miles south of Osgood.)

... Blaney and Eliza Palmer visited friends in Jeffersonville a few days last week.

-- Sourcee: Page 2 of the Ripley Journal from 9 August 1883

Family lore, within my family, was Eliza died as a result of a copperhead bite. I located a citation about her being bitten by a copperhead at least two years before her death^D.

As Mrs. Blaney Palmer stepped out on the porch bare-footed at her home west of town last Wednesday evening, she returned to the home with the remark that something had stung her. Investigation proved that a huge copper-head snake had crawled upon the porch and aggravated by Mrs. Palmer stepping on it, fastened its fangs on her toe. Her foot and leg swelled horribly, and a physician was called, but she is now out of danger. His snakeship was killed.

-- Source: Page 8 of the Ripley County Journal from 27 August 1891

Eliza A. Palmer died on 14 March 1893^G, aged 74, in Ripley County, Indiana.

On the Death of Mrs. Blaney Palmer

Eliza H.[sic] Reed was born in Butler county, Ohio, September 10, 1817; she was married to Blaney Palmer in 1845[sic]; to them were born 7 children>sup>F - five daughters and two sons. One daughter^E passed to the spirit world June 5, 1875. She leaves a husband and 6 children to mourn her loss; she had been in failing health for the past 5 years, but was not confined to her bed, and on March 24[sic], 1893, the death angel gave the summons and the mother went from us to join her daughter on the other shore. When home we go to see the father. mother is not there; her voice is silent in the tomb. Her funeral service was conducted at the residence by Rev. Guthrie. on Monday, March 17, after which her remains were laid to rest in the Versailles cemetery. The Good Lord saith when the hour cometh the reaper of death shall fell us; it is come and took from us one that has been near and dear to us all, he has called mother home while the body lies mouldering in the tomb, Her spirit is high up in heaven with our Saviour on his throne; she has bid adieu to a tender husband, she has left a loving family, she has sought for a happier place, we all will meet her if we fill our hearts with God's good grace. Mother is gone but not forgotten, her likeness will always be in our minds.

DAUGHTER ISABELLE CONNELLY[sic]⁴

-- Source: Page 4 of the Ripley County Journal from 18 May 1893,

She was buried in Cliff Hill Cemetery on 17 March 1893 in Versailles, Ripley County, Indiana. Eliza Alma REED and Blaney PALMER Sr. were parents to seven children: Mary Elizabeth PALMER⁴, Jane PALMER⁴, John PALMER⁵, Eliza Ann PALMER⁴, Mariah PALMER⁴, Isabelle PALMER⁴ and Blaney PALMER Jr.⁶.

Notations of Carol A. Wells-Perlaky:

^A Middle name taken from marriage record image that listed the couple as "Plenny Parmer" and "Eliza Ann Reed".
^B Birthdate from her headstone, which differs from date shared in obit.
^C Basis on a set of names, for Eliza Alma Reed's parents, is supported through the will of her maternal grandfather, Charles Russell. Eliza Alma Reed, who was born in Springfield Township, Gallia County, Ohio, is not the same Eliza Ann Reed who married Blaney Palmer in Butler County, Ohio. On Ancestry.com a PDF file is shared, titled to the will referring to Eliza who married Blaney, however Charles Russell's granddaughter, Eliza, married a John Guy/Grey in Ohio, and is listed in Ohio for the 1850 US Census whereas Blaney and Eliza [Reed] Palmer were already living in Indiana by the time of the 1850 US Census. Currently, I am leaning to a William and Mariah (or Mary) Reed, who lived within Fairfield Twp, Butler County, Ohio area for the 1840 and 1850 US Census as potential parents for Eliza Ann Reed ... however there was also a Samuel Reed who also lived in Butler County, Ohio around the same time frame.
^D It is hard to say if the snake bite in 1891 played a role in her death in 1893. The family lore had it sound it was almost immediate.
^E Reference to Mariah Palmer.
^F Confirms number of children to being 7 and not 8. This helps support that the couple did not have a 3rd son named James.
^G Her death date is often listed, including on the Find A Grave Memorial page for her, as 24 Mar 1893. Which the 24th would work for the funeral being held on a Monday, as stated in the obituary notice. However, the obituary written by Isabel about her mother was published on 18 Mar 1893, which is six days prior to March 24th. Using the publication date of the obituary had me using 14 Mar 1893 date for Eliza's passing, which would had the funeral being on Friday, 17 Mar 1893.

Relationship to Carol A. Wells-Perlaky:

¹ Maternal Great-Great-Grandmother
² Maternal 3x Great-Grandparents
³ Maternal Great-Great-Grandfather
⁴ Maternal Great-Aunt
⁵ Maternal Great-Uncle
⁶ Maternal Great-Grandfather

Sources for Research on Eliza(beth) Ann Reed:

·   United States Census on 9 October 1850 in Otter Creek, Ripley County, Indiana
·   United States Census on 19 June 1860 in Center Township, Ripley County, Indiana
·   United States Census on 11 July 1870 in Center Township, Ripley County, Indiana
·   United States on 3 June 1880 in Center Township, Ripley County, Indiana
·   Newspaper/Publication - Ripley County Journal - August 1883, August 1891 ·   Newspaper/Publication - Ripley Journal May 1893
·   Find A Grave memorial pages for spouse and children
·   Rootsweb Archives
·   Ancestry Message Boards
·   Genealogy Forums

Additional Citations:

21 Apr 2018 Blog post was updated to share theorized [not confirmed] set of names for Eliza parents. I also correctly edited her birth place to being Butler County, Ohio, due to forgetting to that before when originally posting, due to establishing, on my side of the research, that Thomas Reed and Mary Sarah Russell to not being her parents, but the parents of another Eliza Reed who married a John Guy/Grey. I also added additional notations, to the above alphabetical listing of notations from my side, during the Apr 2018 update about the number of children and death date thoughts for Eliza(beth) Ann Reed.

26 Mar 2021 Blog post updated to remove the names of William and Mariah I had listed as Eliza's theorized parents. Which takes me back to having her parents' names currently Unknown.

Blaney Palmer 1820 - 1899

Blaney Palmer Sr.¹ was born on 10 September^A 1820^B, in Ireland^C, and the names of his parents are, if wishing to be accurate, unknown despite the many individual and one world tree sources sharing a loosely theorized thought his parents possibly were William PALMER^{2, D} and Jane MARTIN by using a debunked "Irish naming tradition" theory that someone has shared across multiple places that others have copied as "fact" versus unproven^{2, D}.

In 1842 or 1843 Blaney is said to have immigrated to the United States with his brother, John Palmer³. Most online tree owners cite Blaney Palmer listed on passenger list of the "Rob Roy" with last name spelt as "Parmer"; and disembarked in New York^E on 31 May 1842^F. On 3 September 1850, aged 29, he was naturalized^F.

Blaney Palmer Sr. married Elizabeth Ann REED⁴. Her parents' names are currently Unknown^{2, G} and she is said to been born on 18 November 1847 in Butler County, Ohio, however she may been born in Pennsylvania and her family later moved to Butler County, Ohio where she would meet then marry Blaney Palmer Sr.

By 9 October 1850, when he appears in his first United States census, Blaney Palmer Sr. is living in Ripley County, Indiana. Blaney can be found in subsequent United States census reports for 1860, 1870, and 1880 enumerating Ripley County for those years. According to those same census reports Blaney Palmer Sr. occupation was that of farmer and he could read and write.

According to the same census reports, Blaney Palmer increased the value of his property. In 1850 the reported value of his real estate was said to be $800. By the time the census taker came around in 1860 he had increased his real estate value to $2000 with the personal estate at $400. In 1870 the reported value was $4000 and personal estate at $500. With this steady increasing, the following cited offer for his holdings may been reasonable?

... Blaney Palmer refused an offer of $6,000 for his farm and stock from a Louisville man.

--Source: Page 2 of the Ripley County Journal from 20 October 1883

Before April of 1891 Blaney Palmer Sr. was diagnosed with cancer.

Blaney Palmer, west of town, who was recently treated by E. W. Hicks, the cancer doctor, was in town Monday and shows his face almost entirely well. Robt. Cornelius, who is also being treated, is improving rapidly.

Source: -- Page 8 of the Ripley County Journal from 16 April 1891

After Eliza (Reed) Palmer’s passing, in 1893, Blaney Palmer Sr. moves in with one of his daughters and her family. The newspapers from the area help chronicle this happening through notices of property for rent, real estate transfers and a public sale of household goods and stock.

REAL ESTATE TRANSFERS.
... Blaney Palmer to Coy Palmer⁵, 1 acre in Center tp., $350

--Source: Page 1 of the Batesville Democrat Herald from 4 October 1894/p>

... Blaney Palmer to John T. Welch⁶, 79 acres in Center tp, $2,000

--Source: Page 8 of Ripley County Journal from 10 September 1896

... Blaney Palmer, Sr. has sold his farm to his son-in-law, John Welsh, of Illinois.

--Source: Page 1 of the Versailles Republican from 16 September 1896

He died from cancer on 1 October 1899, aged 79, in Ripley County, Indiana.

... Blaney Palmer, Sr., an old resident of this county, died at the home of his son-in-law, Leatherwood John Wagner⁶, on Sunday evening, after great suffering from cancer on the face. He was buried at Versailles on Tuesday.

Source: -- 5 October 1899, Page 8 of the Ripley County Journal

Blaney Palmer was buried in Cliff Hill Cemetery on 5 October 1899 in Versailles, Ripley County, Indiana. Blaney Palmer and Eliza Alma Reed were the parents to seven children: Mary Elizabeth PALMER⁷, Jane PALMER⁷, John PALMER⁸, Eliza Ann PALMER⁷, Mariah PALMER⁷, Isabell PALMER⁷ and Blaney PALMER Jr.⁹.

Notations of Carol A. Wells-Perlaky:

^A Month and day of birth is obtained from Blaney Palmer’s grave marker.
^B Birth year may be around 1823 range according to the 1850, 1860 and 1880 U. S. Census reports information. The only sources which share his birth year as 1820 or earlier to that specific year is his headstone and the 1870 U. S Census report.
^C Exact birthplace is technically not known. Blaney is most often listed, on online shared family trees or within forum posts, as being born in Coleraine, County Londonderry, Ireland or County Londonderry, Ireland – which may be where he departed Ireland from and not actual birth location. His brother, John, is listed as being born in Northern Ireland, Larne, County Antrim, Ireland or County Antrim, Ireland however his exact birth location is not known either.
^D One of the three or four theories about whom his parents may have been. To date, his parents’ identities remain a mystery. I cannot stress it enough that William Palmer nor Jane Martin or anyone else has not been linked or somehow confirmed/verified to being Blaney nor John Palmer's parents - which also means that [Robert] Sandford Palmer [Sr] and, his wife, Mary Ann Davies, has not been verified, or confirmed, to having a son named William nor James and/or William James Palmer either. The names of William Palmer and Jane Martin are listed, within this blog post, as "working theory" but a theory that has not been able to provide one piece of documentation, or any link, whatsoever between the couple to Blaney or to his brother, John.
^E Blaney and his brother are said to have traveled together. However, I have not come across a passenger list transcription that has the two of them listed together. John Palmer is often cited as to being on a passenger list of another ship that landed in Philadelphia or New York.
^F Need to locate documentation for this beyond him stating, on a US Census, that he was naturalized in 1850.
^G Per the passenger list transcription, Blaney Palmer is listed to being 29 years old when coming to New York in 1842. That age would give him an estimated birth year of 1813/1814. However he is listed, in 1850, when being naturalized to being 29 at that time - which would match up more to the 10 Sep 1822 birth date.
^H William Reed and Mariah are listed as theorized parents for Eliza Ann Reed. This has not been confirmed as "fact" on my side, it is a theory I am still working on. William Reed's household appeared in the 1840 US Census in Butler County and William and Mariah Reed, with some of their children, is recorded in 1850 US census in the same area. However there was also a Samuel Reed around the same area in 1840.

Relationship to Carol A. Wells-Perlaky:

¹ Maternal Great-great-grandfather
² Maternal 3x Great-grandparent
³ Maternal Great-great-uncle
⁴ Maternal Great-great-grandmother
⁵ Maternal Grandfather
⁶ Indirect; through marriage
⁷ Maternal Great-aunt
⁸ Maternal Great-uncle
⁹ Maternal Great-grandfather

Sources for Research on Blaney Palmer Sr.:

·   United States Census in Otter Creek Township, Ripley County, Indiana; Occupation: Farmer
·   United States Census in Center Township, Ripley County, Indiana; Occupation: Farmer
·   United States Census in Center Township, Ripley County, Indiana; Occupation: Farmer
·   United States Census in Center Township, Ripley County, Indiana; Occupation: Farmer
·   Newspaper Publication: Ripley County Journal - October 1883, April 1891, September 1896
·   Newspaper Publication: Batesville Democrat Herald – October 1894
·   Newspaper Publication: Versailles Republican – September 1896
·   Find A Grave memorial pages for spouse and children
·   Rootsweb Archives
·   Ancestry Message Boards
·   Genealogy Forums

Additional Citations:

21 Apr 2018: Blog post updated to 1. share age for Blaney from a transcribed record of a passenger list, 2. to change Eliza's middle name from Alma to Ann, and 3. list theorized parents for Eliza. Also re-addressed the notation above in regard to thoughts about Blaney's parents to stress the names listed in the blog post are theorized parental names only and not to be taken as "fact" or that the couple was somehow proven to being his and/or John's parents and/or to being related, in any manner, to Blaney and/or John Palmer.

26 Mar 2021: Blog post updated to remove the theorized parental names, of William and Mariah, I had shared prior for Eliza Reed on 21 Apr 2018. Also amended wording for sentence about Blaney Palmer Sr's parents names, which are still currently shared within the post, to help further stress those names are only theorized potential names to wher some are even ignoring that Blaney has oft been mentioned/shared as to being the older brother to John Palmer, yet are moving John to older brother status to try to make "things work" even if it means ignoring the past information handed down about the two brothers or what is shared in those own men's paper trail here in the United States.