Mary "Polly" 1796 - 1862

Mary Ellen [LNU]¹ was born on 12 August 1796, in Pennsylvania, United States to [FNU] [LNU]² and [FNU] [LNU]². Mary became known as “Polly”.

Polly Unknown, aged about 24, married David Hess³, aged about 23, about 1820 in Pennsylvania.

Polly Hess for the United States Census in 1850 and 1860 is recorded residing in Washington Township, Ripley, Indiana, United States. She was listed as not being able to read or write.

Polly died on 25 November 1862, aged 66, in Ripley, Indiana, United States. She was buried in Green Cemetery in Ripley, Indiana, United States. Mary "Polly" McBride and David Hess were the parents of 21 children, I only have the following names: Daniel Hess⁴, Hannah Hess⁵, Rosanna Hess⁵, Thomas Hess⁴, Eliza Hess⁵, Mary C Hess⁵, David McBride Hess⁶, Fanna Hess⁵, Joshua Hess⁴, John Hess⁴, Mathias Hess⁴, Samuel W Hess⁴, Margaret Hess⁵, Jonah Hess⁴, George Hess⁴, Jeremiah Hess⁴, and Jane Hess⁵

Notations of Carol A. Wells-Perlaky:

· Her maiden name may have been McBride. However, I have not come across anything to help confirm or support that outside of a couple of family trees that list McBride as her maiden name. Therefore I have not been ablle to ascertain her parents' names.

Relationship to Carol A. Wells-Perlaky:

1 Maternal 3x Great-grandmother
2 Maternal 4x Great-grandparents
3 Maternal 3x Great-grandfather
4 Maternal 2x Great-uncle
5 Maternal 2x Great-aunt
6 Maternal 2x Great-grandfather

Research for Mary Ellen McBride:

·   United States Census in 1840 for Ripley, Indiana
·   United States Census in 1850 for Washington Township, Ripley, Indiana
·   United States Census in 1860 for Washington Township, Ripley, Indiana
·   Ancestry message boards
·   Rootsweb forums
·   Genealogy forums

UPDATE May 2018 to switch birth year from 1793 to 1796, changed wedding date from 1815 to 1820, to correct 1860 Census to being the 1850 US Census and to properly add the 1860 US Census, added number of children (per an obit for one of their children), and to remove "Ellen" as a middle name.

David Hess 1797 - 1866

David HESS¹ was born on 1797^A, in Pennsylvania, United States to [FNU] Hess^2,B and [FNU] [LNU]^2,B.

David Hess, aged about 23, married Mary [LNU]³, aged about 24, about 1820 in Pennsylvania.

David is recorded in the United States Census in 1840, aged about 43, in Ripley, Indiana. David Hess's household consisted of: Males: Age 5-Under 10: 1; 10-Under 15: 4; 15-Under 20: 1; 40-Under 50: 1. Females: 20-Under 30: 3; 40-Under 50: 1 .

For the United States Census in 1850 David, aged about 53, is listed as to residing in Washington Township, Ripley, Indiana. His occupation was farmer and listed as cannot read or write. For the United States Census in 1860, aged 63, David is listed in Washington Township, Ripley, Indiana. On the latter census report his birth year is estimated to being 1781, not 1797.

David died on 26 October 1866, aged 69, in Ripley, Indiana. He was buried, possibly in Green Cemetery, in Ripley, Indiana. David Hess and Polly McBride were the parents of 21 children, I only have names of the following: Daniel Hess⁴, Hannah Hess⁵, Rosanna Hess⁵, Thomas Hess⁴, Eliza Hess⁵, Mary C Hess⁵, David McBride Hess⁶, Fanna Hess⁵, Joshua Hess⁴, John Hess⁴, Mathias Hess⁴, Samuel W Hess⁴, Margaret Hess⁵, Jonah Hess⁴, George Hess⁴, Jeremiah Hess⁴, and Jane Hess⁵

Notations of Carol A. Wells-Perlaky:

A I haven't been able to narrow it down for possible parents of David.

Relationship to Carol A. Wells-Perlaky:

1 Maternal 3x Great-grandfather
2 Maternal 4x Great-grandparents
3 Maternal 3x Great-grandmother
4 Maternal 2x Great-uncle
5 Maternal 2x Great-aunt
6 Maternal 2x Great-grandfather

Research for David Hess:

·   United States Census in 1840 for Ripley, Indiana
·   United States Census in 1850 for Washington Township, Ripley, Indiana
·   United States Census in 1860 for Johnson Township, Ripley, Indiana
·   Ancestry message boards
·   Rootsweb forums
·   Genealogy forums

UPDATED May 2018 to include census from 1860, to adjust wife's age at time of marriage, change marriage year from 1815 to 1820, and to add number of children (per one of the children's obit).

Hannah Radley 1800 - 1850

HANNAH RADLEY¹ was born around 1800 to [FNU] Radley² and [FNU] [LNU]².

August 30, 1824 Hannah Radley, aged about 24 years, married Andrew Hamilton³, aged 22 years.

Hannah died between 1840 to 1850, aged about 40 to 50, in Indiana, United States. She is said to been buried in Campground Cemetery. Andrew and Hannah [Radley] Hamilton were the parents of Nancy Jane Hamilton⁴, Isaac Newton Hamilton⁵, Mary Margaret Hamilton⁶, and Sarah Elizabeth Hamilton⁶

Notations of Carol A. Wells-Perlaky:

·   Andrew Hamilton's burial location is said to be unknown. I have not yet confirmed if Hannah is indeed buried where she is rumored to have been.

Relationship to Carol A. Wells-Perlakdy:

¹ Maternal 3x Great-grandmother
² Maternal 4x Great-grandparents
³ Maternal 3x Great-grandfather
⁴ Maternal 2x Great-grandmother
⁵ Maternal 2x Great-uncle
⁶ Maternal 2x Great-aunt

Resources used for Hannah Radley:

·   INGenWeb.org
·   FamilySearch.org family tree
·   FamilySearch.org Pedigree files
·   Ancestry Message Boards
·   Genealogy forums
·   The Connector for the Hamilton Genealogical Society; pg. 56

UPDATED May 2018 to add link to blog post about parentage thoughts and to include another resource.

Andrew Hamilton 1802 - 1838

ANDREW HAMILTON¹ was born 27 January 1802, in Bourbon, Kentucky, United States, to Benjamin A. Hamilton Jr.² and Nancy Wallace².

August 30, 1824^A, in Ripley, Indiana, Andrew Hamilton, aged about 22, married Hannah Radley^3,C, aged about 24.

Andrew is listed in the United States for 1830, aged about 28, in Ripley, Indiana, United States^B.

Andrew died in September 1838, aged 36, in Ripley, Indiana, United States. Burial location, at this point in time, is unknown. Andrew and Hannah [Radley] Hamilton were the parents to Nancy Jane⁴, Isaac Newton Hamilton⁵, Mary Margaret Hamilton⁶, and Sarah Elizabeth Hamilton⁶.

Notations of Carol A. Wells-Perlaky:

^A I have seen some online trees list the wedding date as 2 Sep 1824 or 30 Aug 1824.
^B Based on where other families were living, during and after the 1830 US Census, Andrew and Hannah Hamilton may have resided in Washington Township area.
^C Less is known about Hannah Radley due to inability to confirm her parents.

Relationship to Carol A. Wells-Perlaky:

¹ Maternal 3x Great-grandfather
² Maternal 4x Great-grandparents
³ Maternal 3x Great-grandmother
⁴ Maternal 2x Great-grandmother
⁵ Maternal 2x Great-uncle
⁶ Maternal 2x Great-aunt

Sources used for Andrew Hamilton:

·   INGenWeb.org
·   FamilySearch.org Family Tree
·   United States Census, 1830
·   Genealogy Forums
·   The Connector of the Hamilton National Geographic Society ; pg.56

UPDATED May 2018 to share a notation, and link to another blog post, about trying to unravel, or determine, Hannah Radley's parentage thoughts. Also included another resource to the list of resources I came across in the research for this individual and/or his family.

Elizabeth Ann Reed 1818 - 1893

Elizabeth Ann REED^1A was born on 16 September 1818^B, in Butler County, Ohio or possibly Pennsylvania. Her parents names are unknown.^{2, B, C}. Elizabeth became known as Eliza.

Blaney PALMER Sr.³ married Eliza A. Reed on 18 November 1847 in Butler County, Ohio.

By 9 October 1850 Eliza and Blaney Palmer Sr. are living in Otter Creek Township, Ripley County, Indiana. Eliza and Blaney Palmer Sr. can be found in subsequent United States census reports for 1860, 1870, and 1880 enumerating Center Township, Ripley County for those years. According to those same census reports Eliza Alma (Reed) Palmer's occupation was that of housewife. The 1870 and 1880 United States Census share Eliza could read, but could not write.

Hendrick's Crossing.
(Two miles south of Osgood.)

... Blaney and Eliza Palmer visited friends in Jeffersonville a few days last week.

-- Sourcee: Page 2 of the Ripley Journal from 9 August 1883

Family lore, within my family, was Eliza died as a result of a copperhead bite. I located a citation about her being bitten by a copperhead at least two years before her death^D.

As Mrs. Blaney Palmer stepped out on the porch bare-footed at her home west of town last Wednesday evening, she returned to the home with the remark that something had stung her. Investigation proved that a huge copper-head snake had crawled upon the porch and aggravated by Mrs. Palmer stepping on it, fastened its fangs on her toe. Her foot and leg swelled horribly, and a physician was called, but she is now out of danger. His snakeship was killed.

-- Source: Page 8 of the Ripley County Journal from 27 August 1891

Eliza A. Palmer died on 14 March 1893^G, aged 74, in Ripley County, Indiana.

On the Death of Mrs. Blaney Palmer

Eliza H.[sic] Reed was born in Butler county, Ohio, September 10, 1817; she was married to Blaney Palmer in 1845[sic]; to them were born 7 children>sup>F - five daughters and two sons. One daughter^E passed to the spirit world June 5, 1875. She leaves a husband and 6 children to mourn her loss; she had been in failing health for the past 5 years, but was not confined to her bed, and on March 24[sic], 1893, the death angel gave the summons and the mother went from us to join her daughter on the other shore. When home we go to see the father. mother is not there; her voice is silent in the tomb. Her funeral service was conducted at the residence by Rev. Guthrie. on Monday, March 17, after which her remains were laid to rest in the Versailles cemetery. The Good Lord saith when the hour cometh the reaper of death shall fell us; it is come and took from us one that has been near and dear to us all, he has called mother home while the body lies mouldering in the tomb, Her spirit is high up in heaven with our Saviour on his throne; she has bid adieu to a tender husband, she has left a loving family, she has sought for a happier place, we all will meet her if we fill our hearts with God's good grace. Mother is gone but not forgotten, her likeness will always be in our minds.

DAUGHTER ISABELLE CONNELLY[sic]⁴

-- Source: Page 4 of the Ripley County Journal from 18 May 1893,

She was buried in Cliff Hill Cemetery on 17 March 1893 in Versailles, Ripley County, Indiana. Eliza Alma REED and Blaney PALMER Sr. were parents to seven children: Mary Elizabeth PALMER⁴, Jane PALMER⁴, John PALMER⁵, Eliza Ann PALMER⁴, Mariah PALMER⁴, Isabelle PALMER⁴ and Blaney PALMER Jr.⁶.

Notations of Carol A. Wells-Perlaky:

^A Middle name taken from marriage record image that listed the couple as "Plenny Parmer" and "Eliza Ann Reed".
^B Birthdate from her headstone, which differs from date shared in obit.
^C Basis on a set of names, for Eliza Alma Reed's parents, is supported through the will of her maternal grandfather, Charles Russell. Eliza Alma Reed, who was born in Springfield Township, Gallia County, Ohio, is not the same Eliza Ann Reed who married Blaney Palmer in Butler County, Ohio. On Ancestry.com a PDF file is shared, titled to the will referring to Eliza who married Blaney, however Charles Russell's granddaughter, Eliza, married a John Guy/Grey in Ohio, and is listed in Ohio for the 1850 US Census whereas Blaney and Eliza [Reed] Palmer were already living in Indiana by the time of the 1850 US Census. Currently, I am leaning to a William and Mariah (or Mary) Reed, who lived within Fairfield Twp, Butler County, Ohio area for the 1840 and 1850 US Census as potential parents for Eliza Ann Reed ... however there was also a Samuel Reed who also lived in Butler County, Ohio around the same time frame.
^D It is hard to say if the snake bite in 1891 played a role in her death in 1893. The family lore had it sound it was almost immediate.
^E Reference to Mariah Palmer.
^F Confirms number of children to being 7 and not 8. This helps support that the couple did not have a 3rd son named James.
^G Her death date is often listed, including on the Find A Grave Memorial page for her, as 24 Mar 1893. Which the 24th would work for the funeral being held on a Monday, as stated in the obituary notice. However, the obituary written by Isabel about her mother was published on 18 Mar 1893, which is six days prior to March 24th. Using the publication date of the obituary had me using 14 Mar 1893 date for Eliza's passing, which would had the funeral being on Friday, 17 Mar 1893.

Relationship to Carol A. Wells-Perlaky:

¹ Maternal Great-Great-Grandmother
² Maternal 3x Great-Grandparents
³ Maternal Great-Great-Grandfather
⁴ Maternal Great-Aunt
⁵ Maternal Great-Uncle
⁶ Maternal Great-Grandfather

Sources for Research on Eliza(beth) Ann Reed:

·   United States Census on 9 October 1850 in Otter Creek, Ripley County, Indiana
·   United States Census on 19 June 1860 in Center Township, Ripley County, Indiana
·   United States Census on 11 July 1870 in Center Township, Ripley County, Indiana
·   United States on 3 June 1880 in Center Township, Ripley County, Indiana
·   Newspaper/Publication - Ripley County Journal - August 1883, August 1891 ·   Newspaper/Publication - Ripley Journal May 1893
·   Find A Grave memorial pages for spouse and children
·   Rootsweb Archives
·   Ancestry Message Boards
·   Genealogy Forums

Additional Citations:

21 Apr 2018 Blog post was updated to share theorized [not confirmed] set of names for Eliza parents. I also correctly edited her birth place to being Butler County, Ohio, due to forgetting to that before when originally posting, due to establishing, on my side of the research, that Thomas Reed and Mary Sarah Russell to not being her parents, but the parents of another Eliza Reed who married a John Guy/Grey. I also added additional notations, to the above alphabetical listing of notations from my side, during the Apr 2018 update about the number of children and death date thoughts for Eliza(beth) Ann Reed.

26 Mar 2021 Blog post updated to remove the names of William and Mariah I had listed as Eliza's theorized parents. Which takes me back to having her parents' names currently Unknown.

Blaney Palmer 1820 - 1899

Blaney Palmer Sr.¹ was born on 10 September^A 1820^B, in Ireland^C, and the names of his parents are, if wishing to be accurate, unknown despite the many individual and one world tree sources sharing a loosely theorized thought his parents possibly were William PALMER^{2, D} and Jane MARTIN by using a debunked "Irish naming tradition" theory that someone has shared across multiple places that others have copied as "fact" versus unproven^{2, D}.

In 1842 or 1843 Blaney is said to have immigrated to the United States with his brother, John Palmer³. Most online tree owners cite Blaney Palmer listed on passenger list of the "Rob Roy" with last name spelt as "Parmer"; and disembarked in New York^E on 31 May 1842^F. On 3 September 1850, aged 29, he was naturalized^F.

Blaney Palmer Sr. married Elizabeth Ann REED⁴. Her parents' names are currently Unknown^{2, G} and she is said to been born on 18 November 1847 in Butler County, Ohio, however she may been born in Pennsylvania and her family later moved to Butler County, Ohio where she would meet then marry Blaney Palmer Sr.

By 9 October 1850, when he appears in his first United States census, Blaney Palmer Sr. is living in Ripley County, Indiana. Blaney can be found in subsequent United States census reports for 1860, 1870, and 1880 enumerating Ripley County for those years. According to those same census reports Blaney Palmer Sr. occupation was that of farmer and he could read and write.

According to the same census reports, Blaney Palmer increased the value of his property. In 1850 the reported value of his real estate was said to be $800. By the time the census taker came around in 1860 he had increased his real estate value to $2000 with the personal estate at $400. In 1870 the reported value was $4000 and personal estate at $500. With this steady increasing, the following cited offer for his holdings may been reasonable?

... Blaney Palmer refused an offer of $6,000 for his farm and stock from a Louisville man.

--Source: Page 2 of the Ripley County Journal from 20 October 1883

Before April of 1891 Blaney Palmer Sr. was diagnosed with cancer.

Blaney Palmer, west of town, who was recently treated by E. W. Hicks, the cancer doctor, was in town Monday and shows his face almost entirely well. Robt. Cornelius, who is also being treated, is improving rapidly.

Source: -- Page 8 of the Ripley County Journal from 16 April 1891

After Eliza (Reed) Palmer’s passing, in 1893, Blaney Palmer Sr. moves in with one of his daughters and her family. The newspapers from the area help chronicle this happening through notices of property for rent, real estate transfers and a public sale of household goods and stock.

REAL ESTATE TRANSFERS.
... Blaney Palmer to Coy Palmer⁵, 1 acre in Center tp., $350

--Source: Page 1 of the Batesville Democrat Herald from 4 October 1894/p>

... Blaney Palmer to John T. Welch⁶, 79 acres in Center tp, $2,000

--Source: Page 8 of Ripley County Journal from 10 September 1896

... Blaney Palmer, Sr. has sold his farm to his son-in-law, John Welsh, of Illinois.

--Source: Page 1 of the Versailles Republican from 16 September 1896

He died from cancer on 1 October 1899, aged 79, in Ripley County, Indiana.

... Blaney Palmer, Sr., an old resident of this county, died at the home of his son-in-law, Leatherwood John Wagner⁶, on Sunday evening, after great suffering from cancer on the face. He was buried at Versailles on Tuesday.

Source: -- 5 October 1899, Page 8 of the Ripley County Journal

Blaney Palmer was buried in Cliff Hill Cemetery on 5 October 1899 in Versailles, Ripley County, Indiana. Blaney Palmer and Eliza Alma Reed were the parents to seven children: Mary Elizabeth PALMER⁷, Jane PALMER⁷, John PALMER⁸, Eliza Ann PALMER⁷, Mariah PALMER⁷, Isabell PALMER⁷ and Blaney PALMER Jr.⁹.

Notations of Carol A. Wells-Perlaky:

^A Month and day of birth is obtained from Blaney Palmer’s grave marker.
^B Birth year may be around 1823 range according to the 1850, 1860 and 1880 U. S. Census reports information. The only sources which share his birth year as 1820 or earlier to that specific year is his headstone and the 1870 U. S Census report.
^C Exact birthplace is technically not known. Blaney is most often listed, on online shared family trees or within forum posts, as being born in Coleraine, County Londonderry, Ireland or County Londonderry, Ireland – which may be where he departed Ireland from and not actual birth location. His brother, John, is listed as being born in Northern Ireland, Larne, County Antrim, Ireland or County Antrim, Ireland however his exact birth location is not known either.
^D One of the three or four theories about whom his parents may have been. To date, his parents’ identities remain a mystery. I cannot stress it enough that William Palmer nor Jane Martin or anyone else has not been linked or somehow confirmed/verified to being Blaney nor John Palmer's parents - which also means that [Robert] Sandford Palmer [Sr] and, his wife, Mary Ann Davies, has not been verified, or confirmed, to having a son named William nor James and/or William James Palmer either. The names of William Palmer and Jane Martin are listed, within this blog post, as "working theory" but a theory that has not been able to provide one piece of documentation, or any link, whatsoever between the couple to Blaney or to his brother, John.
^E Blaney and his brother are said to have traveled together. However, I have not come across a passenger list transcription that has the two of them listed together. John Palmer is often cited as to being on a passenger list of another ship that landed in Philadelphia or New York.
^F Need to locate documentation for this beyond him stating, on a US Census, that he was naturalized in 1850.
^G Per the passenger list transcription, Blaney Palmer is listed to being 29 years old when coming to New York in 1842. That age would give him an estimated birth year of 1813/1814. However he is listed, in 1850, when being naturalized to being 29 at that time - which would match up more to the 10 Sep 1822 birth date.
^H William Reed and Mariah are listed as theorized parents for Eliza Ann Reed. This has not been confirmed as "fact" on my side, it is a theory I am still working on. William Reed's household appeared in the 1840 US Census in Butler County and William and Mariah Reed, with some of their children, is recorded in 1850 US census in the same area. However there was also a Samuel Reed around the same area in 1840.

Relationship to Carol A. Wells-Perlaky:

¹ Maternal Great-great-grandfather
² Maternal 3x Great-grandparent
³ Maternal Great-great-uncle
⁴ Maternal Great-great-grandmother
⁵ Maternal Grandfather
⁶ Indirect; through marriage
⁷ Maternal Great-aunt
⁸ Maternal Great-uncle
⁹ Maternal Great-grandfather

Sources for Research on Blaney Palmer Sr.:

·   United States Census in Otter Creek Township, Ripley County, Indiana; Occupation: Farmer
·   United States Census in Center Township, Ripley County, Indiana; Occupation: Farmer
·   United States Census in Center Township, Ripley County, Indiana; Occupation: Farmer
·   United States Census in Center Township, Ripley County, Indiana; Occupation: Farmer
·   Newspaper Publication: Ripley County Journal - October 1883, April 1891, September 1896
·   Newspaper Publication: Batesville Democrat Herald – October 1894
·   Newspaper Publication: Versailles Republican – September 1896
·   Find A Grave memorial pages for spouse and children
·   Rootsweb Archives
·   Ancestry Message Boards
·   Genealogy Forums

Additional Citations:

21 Apr 2018: Blog post updated to 1. share age for Blaney from a transcribed record of a passenger list, 2. to change Eliza's middle name from Alma to Ann, and 3. list theorized parents for Eliza. Also re-addressed the notation above in regard to thoughts about Blaney's parents to stress the names listed in the blog post are theorized parental names only and not to be taken as "fact" or that the couple was somehow proven to being his and/or John's parents and/or to being related, in any manner, to Blaney and/or John Palmer.

26 Mar 2021: Blog post updated to remove the theorized parental names, of William and Mariah, I had shared prior for Eliza Reed on 21 Apr 2018. Also amended wording for sentence about Blaney Palmer Sr's parents names, which are still currently shared within the post, to help further stress those names are only theorized potential names to wher some are even ignoring that Blaney has oft been mentioned/shared as to being the older brother to John Palmer, yet are moving John to older brother status to try to make "things work" even if it means ignoring the past information handed down about the two brothers or what is shared in those own men's paper trail here in the United States.

Sandford Palmer Theory

NOTATION from Carol A. Wells-Perlaky:
In 2018 I revisited this theory about [Robert] Sandford Palmer as relation to Blaney and John Palmer to clear up a bit of misinformation I inadvertently shared about the elder Palmer's marriages and to also share other thoughts about theory itself since I originally shared this post. This 2016 blog post was edited include the link to the more recent revisitation of the theory's blog posting. I also included links to the posts about Blaney and John Palmer. Otherwise nothing was changed in the original post's textual contents below.

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I have come across online sources, or family trees, sharing the theory that a son of a Sandford Palmer was the father of Blaney and John Palmer. This son is sometimes listed with the name of William Palmer.

The theory went that Sandford Palmer and his wife, Mary, had a child (born around 1803) named William who married a Jane Martin, born in Mallow Parish, County Down and the daughter of James Martin and Jane Craig. William and Jane were said to been the parents of Blaney Palmer Sr. and, or, John Palmer.

On FamilySearch I located a christening/birth record for a male child born to Sandford Palmer and his first wife, Mary Ann. However the certificate did not list the child's name, only date and gender the only information shared about the child. Although tantalizing, after 3 or so years, I've determined (to my satisfaction) the theory doesn't seem to connect with Blaney or John Palmer. At least, it does not connect to them where Sandford R. Palmer would been their grandfather with how the theory is presented.

Sandford Robert Palmer married twice, within Mallow Parish/County Cork. He married Mary Ann Davis/Davies, daughter of Robert Davis/Davies, in 1796 in Waterford, Mallow Parish in County Cork. The blank name, for the one male child, appears would been a Sandford Palmer (Junior). Mary Ann Davis/Davies Palmer also had Elizabeth Mary Ann, Henrietta Ann, Simon Davies, and Jonathan Tanner Palmer. Elizabeth was Reverend Philip Townsend's second wife and they did not have children. Henrietta is said to married a Jonathan Warburton, I have not found children for this marriage before concluding this may been the wrong Palmer family/branch. Simon Davies died in County Cork in 1879 and unknown if he or Jonathan Tanner Palmer married or had children.

With his second wife, Mary Catherine who was the daughter of Edward Hoare Reeves that he married in 1826, they had a son named Robert Sandford Palmer - after both Sandford (Senior) and his father. So the Sandford name appeared to been passed along to a son with each wife - and none of his sons appear to have been named, nor went by, William either as his second son, in this marriage, was Carlton Reeves Palmer and they supposedly had a daughter named Dorothea.

In a small article about Sandford, after his death, it mentioned Sandford Jr and Robert Sandford in the same article - having it appear that the Sandford name had been passed along to two different male children of the same father.

So pursuing this theory, albeit an interesting Palmer family, served to only lead me right back to where I started: no idea on who were the parents of Blaney or John Palmer - or if they had any other siblings.

If any portion of this theory may hold a lead, or some water, it may be Jonathan Tanner Palmer since I did not come across marriage, let alone any children, attributed to him. Which leads to the second possible parentage theory of a John Palmer and his wife, Jane who is sometimes given the maiden name of Morton or Martin, who had a son (also named John) during the month of December, in 1822, in County Antrim ... could this John Palmer be Jonathan Tanner Palmer, son of Sandford R Palmer? Possibly, but I have to consider that it appears majority of Sandford's children either remained in County Cork/Mallow Parish area (as I can only place Jonathan Tanner due to birth/christening record but nothing beyond that) or went to Australia. Also, John and Jane are relatively common first name thoughts.