John Byars Wampler (1843-1885) and Minnie A. Buck's (1864-1896) Children

John Byars Wampler married Minnie A. Buck, daughter of Charles Marquis Buck and Hannah Wellborn, in a double wedding ceremony in August of 1881. (The other couple was W. Armitage and Maud Noyes. John was friends with the couple and also with Maud's brother, Alva(h) Noyes who would later marry Minnie Buck's sister, Hattie. Alva would later write a short book, "Story of Ajax", about his early adult years in Montana in which he would mention John and John's other brothers periodically within it.)

John B. Wampler died, in 1885, as a result of blood poisoning that came about due to infection in his leg. It is said that he was buried somewhere on his Montana homestead. Minnie remarried and died a few years later, in April of 1898, in California. (Her FindAGrave memorial page has Minnie's middle name being Belle, which I don't know where they got that from as in newspapers her middle initial was listed as A, not B.)

The brief 4 year marriage of John B. and Minnie A. (Buck) Wampler resulted in two children. A daughter named Lorene May Wampler, born in 1882, and a son named Walter F. Wampler, born in 1884. Reece Bowen Wampler, John Byars' brother who also lived in Montana at the time, applied and was approved to be guardian of the children.

Lorene May was born 19 Jun 1882, probably in Big Hole - where John B. Wampler had his homestead, but I have seen her birthplace listed as Butte, Silver Bow county, Montana online. She doesn't appear in an available census report with Reece B. Wampler. Sometime after her mother's passing, and before 1900, it appears that she went to Knox county, Indiana. She lived in that area for the rest of her life until her passing on 24 Apr 1976.

Lorene was married Charles D. Steffy, son of Joseph and Mary Purcell Steffy, on 28 Dec 1901 in Bruceville, Knox county, Indiana. This marriage resulted in three children together: Charles Curtis Steffy, who died around the age of 12, Walter E. Steffy, and a daughter, Nellie M. Steffy.

MARRIED.
Charles D. Steffy of Wheatland, and Miss Lovene[sic?] May Wampler of Fritchton, were married Wednesday by Rev. R. H. Hooke at the Upper Indiana parsonage.
Source: Western Sun - 20 December 1901 - Page 7

Walter F. Wampler was born 10 Dec 1884 - reportedly in Knox county, Indiana. I perused the Indiana birth index, on Ancestry, and cannot find a record for him there. Walter is listed in a 1900 US census report in Reece Bowen Wampler's household. On that census his birth information is listed as Dec 1884, which had him being 16 at the time. His obit also shared that he was born in Vincennes, Knox county, Indiana on 10 Dec 1884. (Some people are apparently attaching him to a 2 Mar 1883 birth where the mother's name is listed as Emma, but that date conflicts with the other information about him having a December birth date.)

Walter never married and he died 14 Nov 1905 in Nye county, Nevada, shortly before his 21st birthday, from pneumonia, and he is buried in Tonapah, Nye county, Nevada.

John Byars Wampler and his younger brother, Reece Bowen Wampler, both had sons they gave the first name of Walter to, per their own paper trails, but their sons were each born in different years. Reeece Bowen's son died in Chicago, Illinois in 1881 and was buried in Knox county, Indiana - his headstone has become worn down from weather and age, and apparently they referred to him by his middle name, Audley, versus as Walter.

Reece Bowen Wampler 1852-1931

Who's....Reese WAMPLER of Montana who married a JORDAN around 1880. (info from Rebecca Mock, sdmock@gte.net).
Source: Wampler/Wampfler Database - Who's This Wampler?

Answer: That would be Reese (or Reece) Bowen Wampler, son of David Guy Wampler and Jane Byars. He was born 21 Mar 1852 in Knox county, Indiana - probably in Palmyra Township, although I have seen him listed as to being born in Vincennes, which was not far from Palmyra Township. He is recorded in 1860 census taken 2 years before David Wampler passes away and also in Jane (Byars) Wampler's household for the 1870 US Census.

Reese Bowen Wampler and three of his of his brothers, John Byars, David Fleming and Thomas J. Wampler, went westward as adults. John Byars was the first of the four, he went to Big Hole area of Montana in 1865 time frame and appears he may been part of the Battle of Big Hole. David Fleming Wampler and his family followed around 7 to 8 years later and settled in Big Basin/Butte area of Montana. Reese B. and Thomas J. Wampler also went to Montana, but I haven't pegged down "when", but know Reece was there at least by 1872 time frame. There are references to all four brothers in early Montana newspapers, however Reece tends to feel like his name was mentioned more often.

Reese Wampler married Violet Josephine "Josie" Jordan, daughter of Harrison Jordan and Catherine Tuttle, 7 Dec 1873.

MARRIED. - At the residence of the bride's parents, Fish Creek, M. T., December 7, 1873, by the Rev. Hugh Duncan, Mr. Reese Wampler, of Butte City, and Miss Josephine Jordan.
Source: Bozeman Avant Courier ; 19 Dec 1873 ; Page 3

They had three children, two girls and a boy, but only their oldest daughter, Nina, lived to adulthood and married a Charles E. Morris, it doesn't appear that the couple had any children before Charles died.

The 1880 US Census, for the household, is the only report that lists all of Reece's children. Irma and Walter Audley "Kidd" Wampler are often listed in online trees as to passing away before 1901. The "before 1901" thought probably stems from an autobiographical sketch for Reece Bowen Wampler appeared in a book, published in 1901, about "Progressive Men of the State of Montana, Book 1". In that particular sketch, Reece shared that Irma and Walter were deceased, but he didn't share more exact information for when they passed away.

I haven't come across more information, outside of the census reports, for Irma. I did find more information about their son. Walter Audley Wampler was born 17 Nov 1879 in Montana, there is a birth announcement for a son being born to the family in a Montana newspaper. Walter Audley Wampler died 19 Jan 1881 in Chicago, Cook county, Illinois and was buried in Upper Indiana cemetery in Bruceville, Knox, Indiana. In the obit for the son, it is mentioned he was survived by two sisters - which would been Nina and Irma. Given that Reece stated two of children passed "before 1901":, and Walter Audley died in 1881, could this hint Irma may have died in the early months of 1900 since she is not listed in that particular census?

Died.
In Chicago, at the residence of K. K. Baldwin, on the morning of January 19, Walter Audley, only son of Reece B. and Josie Wampler, of Butte City, Montana Territory, aged 1 year, 2 months and 2 days.
Walter was born in Butte City, November 17th, 1879; and until some three months ago lived there, when his mother carried him to Chicago, where he sickened and died. Walter was a beautiful child, too fair a flower to beautify earth, and was transplanted in Glory. Oh the sudden transition from pangs of death to glory, when the Savior took him in his arms, for he said "Suffer little children to come unto me, and for bid them not, for of such is the kingdom of heaven." On the day following his death his Aunt Bec brought his remains to his grandmother. His remains were interred, Saturday last, in the Upper Indiana grave-yard. This is the eighth grand-child - five of which are interred at Upper Indiana; four of that number were carried from their Grandmother Wampler's. Walter leaves his parents and two sisters to mourn for him; but his loss is their gain. ....
(The Butte Miner please copy)
Source: Weekly Western Sun - 4 Feb 1881 - Page 1

DIED.
... WAMPLER.- In Chicago, Illinois, January 19th, 1881, Walter Dudley, son of Mr. and Mrs. R. B. Wampler, aged 1 year 2 months and 2 days. ...
Source: Helena Weekly Herald - 10 Feb 1881 - Page 7

Reece and Josephine lived in Montana for a good part of their marriage and also Nevada. A nephew named Walter, who was the son of John Byars Wampler, is listed in their household for the 1900 US Census and he appears to gone with them to Nevada where he later passes away. It is said that Reece and his wife originally moved to Portersville area, in Tulare County, California, due to Josephine's health. Josephine Jordan Wampler passed away in 2 Jan 1920 in California.

Reese Wampler is recorded alone in 1920 US census. After Josephine's passing, he remained in that area and his daughter, Nina, listed as widowed, is listed in his home for the 1930 US census.

Reece B. Wampler died 16 Jun 1931 by suicide. Newspaper report shares that he had expressed his concerns about his health and money thoughts, and even suicidal thoughts, to neighbors prior to June 16th.

OCTOGENARIAN DIES BY HIS OWN HAND
PORTERVILLE, June 17. - Ill health and financial worries are believed to have prompted suicide of R. B. Wampler, 80 years of age, who shot himself in the head with a shotgun at his home in his orange grove in the Worth district, east of here, last night. Wampler, who lived alone, had several times spoken of "ending his troubles," according to neighbors. John Uzzell, a neighbor, hearing the report of the gun, found the body and notified authorities. Time for the inquest has not been set. Wampler leaves a daughter, Mrs. Nina Martin of Glendale, who arrived here this afternoon.
Source: The Los Angeles Times ; 18 Jun 1931 ; Page 10

Reece's burial location is not known. His daughter, upon her death around 20 years later, was cremated so that opens the possibility she may have had her father cremated versus buried in Indiana, Montana or California cemetery.

Not The Daughter of Thomas Reed and Mary Russell So Cannot Be The Granddaughter of Charles Russell

Back in 2009 someone uploaded a PDF file to Ancestry.com about Charles Russell and his will. However, they titled the PDF upload with an insinuation that the Eliza Reed, named as a granddaughter of Charles Russell in his will, is the same Eliza Reed who married Blaney Palmer. This would have her mother being a daughter of Charles Russell, Mary, who married a Thomas Reed.

Problem is that the Eliza Reed mentioned in the will has a paper trail which conflicts with the assertion hinted, by the pdf file's title, that she and the Eliza Reed, who married Blaney Palmer, are one in the same person. They are not. The only way to have it work out that Eliza Reed, who married Blaney Palmer, was Charles Russell's granddaughter mentioned in the will would require Blaney Palmer Sr's wife, Eliza, to commit bigamy plus manage to live in two different areas, with both husbands, the rest of her life.

I know, so far this is a confusing read, but that's the part of the problem as the association is confusing because it appears, somewhere along the line, someone mistakenly thought that there was only Eliza Reed born in Ohio or something like that - and not open to the possibility there could been more than one or consider that Eliza/Elizabeth was a popular name.

Here is my breakdown of what discrepancies I noticed in the claim:
· · Eliza Reed, daughter of Thomas Reed and Mary Russell, is said to been born in Gallia County, Ohio. Eliza Reed, who married Blaney Palmer, is said to been born in Butler County, Ohio.
· ·: Eliza Reed, daughter of Thomas Reed and Mary Russell, married in Gallia County. Ohio. Eliza Reed, who married Blaney Palmer, married in Butler County, Ohio.
· · Eliza Reed, daughter of Thomas Reed and Mary Russell, is listed in the 1850 US Census for Gallia County, Ohio with her husband and two Russell cousins - no children for the primary couple listed. Eliza Reed, who married Blaney Palmer, is listed in the 1850 US Census in Ripley County, Indiana, with Blaney and their daughter, Mary.
· · Eliza Reed, who married Blaney Palmer, is listed in the 1860 US Census in Ripley County with Blaney and three additional children (so up to 4 children in the household). In 1860 Eliza Reed, daughter of Thomas Reed and Mary Russell, is listed in 1860 US Census with her husband, John, in Indiana - but not in Ripley County area.

As interesting as the children of Thomas Reed and Mary Russell were and all, and it would be nice to list parental names as well as siblings for Eliza A. Reed Palmer ... Mary Russell and Thomas Reed appears to being the wrong couple to attach Eliza A. Reed Palmer being their daughter; and, in doing so, would only have the tree, for her, go off track and be incorrect with listing her with the wrong parents and grandparents.

Goodness knows there were a lot of Reeds in Ohio in the early to mid-1840s and the hash-mark style of earlier US census reports doesn't make it easy to narrow down to just one particular Reed. However, we have the information, from Eliza's "In Memory Of" that one of the children wrote after her death and marriage records, that contain references to Butler County, not Gallia County, in Ohio as to being the main area likely of more interest. Eliza Reed who married Blaney Palmer married him in Butler county, Ohio in 1848 and there were other Reeds living in the general area of Butler county of where she married Blaney. Using personal research of the officiator of their marriage, and where the officiator resided at in the 1840s, I have it narrowed down to two possible prospects, and I am leaning more toward one couple as to being the likely parents, who lived in the same area of Butler county for the US census in 1850 (2 years after she married) and also in Butler County for the 1840 census. I have them listed as potential parents of her, with the phrase "possible - not proven" included as part of their names to make it clear, to others, that a piece of the puzzle is not yet been confirmed or verified, just that it is possible. Could that other male Reed be related somehow to Thomas Reed? Possible, but as I said - there were a lot of Reeds, from Pennsylvania and Virginia, who went to Ohio between 1810 and 1840s, and many were siblings or cousins.

The problem is, on Ancestry, if you search or look through the 'hints' shared by Ancestry's side for Eliza Reed - that 2009 PDF pops up near the top of those search results. Which means people see her and/or Blaney's name in the title of the PDF file and just click to attach it to (the wrong) Eliza Reed ... which only helps to continue having it pop up (erroneously) in the results for Eliza Reed Palmer. Therefore resulting in quite a few people who, based upon the 2009 pdf file "as a source", list Thomas and Mary Russell Reed to being her parents ... which means they naturally then add Charles Russell to being her grandfather. All this primarily seems due to that pdf file's title thoughts.

So the naming thoughts/false "research" shared only helps to continue sharing the incorrect information. Kind of similar to, as an example, on how people continue to list Blaney and Eliza Reed Palmer to having a son named James due to a census taker error in the 1860 US census where their daughter Jane was mistakenly listed to being a son named James - and they will even list that James as to passing away prior to 1870 versus just removing non-existent James as a child of the couple and correctly putting the 1860 census to Jane; even though they will tell you "I know" that James never existed. Why? I don't know. The only excuse I can think of to keep the fictional child on the family tree is to only continue the theory that " since Blaney and John both had sons named James, then their father must've been named James ..." and citing Irish naming tradition thoughts as the basis. Which that theory doesn't really pan out, since both men did not have a son named James ... but then you have people using one baptismal record to create a set of twins (therefore create a James William Palmer) for Sandford Palmer to say they have found the parents and grandparents for Blaney and John, but the only evidence being a "one size fits all" baptismal record and a marriage record for a William Palmer marrying and nothing else to even remotely connect Blaney to Sandford Palmer's family tree - and nothing, on Sandford Palmer's side, to connect him to being the father of a William James Palmer either (in terms of any later records or him every being said to have a son named William or James, born around 1803 or 1805, attributed to him)

Oh well, I digress ...

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As a side notation, I have purposely chosen to not link the pdf file shared on Ancestry.com within this article. I am hoping that what I shared here will help shed a little light and prompt others to double check/research on their own (to see if their conclusions match mine when it comes to Eliza Reed of Gallia county, Ohio) and to, possibly, hopefully, edit their trees accordingly and perhaps, eventually, have the person, who titled the pdf file to include Blaney Palmer's name as part of it on Ancestry's site, to rename the pdf file.